Ina joins us at our favorite sweet potato pie restaurant to discuss Darin Morgan’s final episode ‘José Chung’s From Outer Space.’ This ep has the greatest cast ever and enough plot to fill all three kitchen sinks that are wedged into it. It’s wackier than the actual thoughts going through Jesse Ventura’s head at any given time.

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Where the illuminati will force you to phrase your answer in the form of a question.

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Listen to Episode 3×20 – 1:56:51

Tags: 9/11, A little too red, Alex Diakun, Alex Trebek, alien abduction, Alien Autopsy, Alien Cigarette Smoking, Allan Zinyk, America's insane drug policies and horrific criminal justice system, Beaker's Ovaltine Dinner, Best Cast Ever, Big Brother, Bill Murray, Blaine Faulkner, Blaine is the worst person that's ever been on this show and possibly the worst human that has ever been imagined, Cabinet of Caligari, Charles Nelson Reilly, Chris Carter, Chrissy, Clarissa Explains It All, Close Encounters of the Third Kind, Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura, Dana Scully, Daniel Quinn, Darin Morgan, date rape, David Duchovny, Detective Manners, Diana Lesky, Dr. Fingers, Dr. Hand, Dungeons & Dragons, Dungeons and Dragons, El Cajon California, Fire in the Sky, Fox Mulder, Fuck you Scully for your ridiculous arbitrarily language censorship, Gibberish, Gillian Anderson, Harold, Harold is a super creep, Harold might be a werewolf now, HOW DO YOU NOT REALIZE YOU ARE CUTTING INTO AN ALIEN COSTUME?!?!, Hypnosis, inner space, Inside out and backwards clothing is just a bit too much. Why even bother redressing someone at that point?, Jaap Broeker, Jason Gaffney, Jeopardy, Jesse Ventura, Jose Chung, José Chung's From Outer Space, Klass County, Larry Musser, Lavamen, Lieutenant Jack Schaefer, Lord Kimboate, Lord Kinbote, Man in Black, Mandroid, Manimals, Mayor at the time Governor of the Manimals in reality, men in black, Michael Dobson, MK Ultra, Mulder masturbates to bigfoot porn and dreams of the Jersey Devil, non-fiction science fiction, Pale Fire, Patterson-Gimlin Film, Philip J. Klass, Plum Island, post-abduction syndrome, Reynard Muldrake, Rob Bowman, Roky Crikenson, Sadsack Grey, Sarah Sawatsky, Sargeant Hynek Mina E. Mina, Somebody punch this nerd and shove him in a goddamn locker already, Space: Above and Beyond, Sweet Potato Pie, The Manchurian Candidate, The Match Game, The military/industrial/entertainment complex, The music is mad kooky in this ep, The Reptillian Conspiracy, These 33 year olds weren't ready for sex, This is not happening, Twin Peaks, Ummm maybe calm all the rape talk down a bit, wikibigfeet.com, William Lucking, Worst autopsy doctor EVER!, Yappi, YES WE DO KNOW WHAT HYPNOSIS IS, Yo bitch take care of that gross bloody nose

Welcome to the third season, where things are just as ridiculous as ever. Dave joins us as we learn why your health insurance doesn’t cover trips to the rez for medical treatment. Scully is being molested left and right and it is not appropriate. We celebrate the rambling return of dream Deep Throat and Melissa (as well as her shitty crystal choker) gets what she deserves.

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Where you won’t be arbitrarily charged for insubordination.

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Listen to Episode 3×01 – 1:28:36

Tags: A hut is not a hospital, Albert Hosteen, Alex Krycek William B. Davis, Alf Humphreys, America, Baron Munchausen, Before 9/11 metal detectors were 98% imaginary, Brad Cupples, Brad is the Giles Corey of watching X-Files, Bravehearts fighting for the rights of all the dreamers, Chris Carter, Chris Carter's Empire Strikes Back, Cigarette Smoking Man, Claire Laffar, Creepy Ghost Alien Rescue Squad, Criss-Cross Applesauce, Crystal Sister, Dakota House, Dana Scully, David Duchovny, Deep Throat, DIE MELISSA DIE!, Don't trust the white dudes, Douchecopter, Dr. Pomerantz, Dream chattin', dvmpe.com, eh I'll try and flag you down from my car while I flee my death, Elaborate Faux Shakespeare Monologues, Eric Hosteen, Floyd 'Red Crow' Westerman, Fox Mulder, Freddy Kruger Mulder, FUCK THAT BITCH AND HER CRYSTAL CHOKER, ghost aliens, Ghost Mulder, Gillian Anderson, Grandpa Joe, gross cigarette dude from Fearful Symmetry, Hey dummies... you control all the secret info and can't work out a light switch?, holotropic breath work, If someone tells you not to shower for your health punch them in their goddamn filthy fucking face, Inappropriate funeral tactics, introtox, introtox.com, Jerry Hardin, Jerry Hardin has no clue what the block of nonsense means, John Neville, Jonny-Come-Lately Feedback, Laying someone in a salad is not medical treatment, leading questions from a fake doctor, Major Briggs, Margaret Scully, Melinda McGraw, Melissa needs to visit a fashion therapist to see what is wrong with her, Melissa Scully, Melvin Frohike, Michael David Simms, Mitch Pileggi, Molestation Files, Monsters, Mormon Conspiracies, Native American Style, Nicholas Lea, Ninja Mimes, One Two Mulder's monotone is ewww Three Four get ready to snore Five Six he's touching his sister's pics Seven Eight tape up an 'X' and wait, P.S. Your choker sucks too, Peter Donat, Professor X, Put your fucking shoes on Scully, R.W. Goodwin, Regression therapy is not a thing, Robin Burdge, Season Three, Senior Agent, Shawshank Abduction, Sheila Larken, Shit's tough in the FP, Singing and incense are not the same thing as an IV, Smokey lives in Skinner's closet, Stop molesting Scully, STOP! Your unprovoked touching and sexual harassment is not wanted or appreciated, Tammy Ginader, The Blessing Way, The Elders, The Mulder family was so poor they had to share their only acting chop each night... this taught them to get by on less for the rest of their lives, The Native American Four Days of Awful Plan is Frohike approved, The Well-Manicured Man, The worst photoshop ever, The Zzzzzzz Files, Tom Braidwood, Twin Peaks, Uncomfortable Admissions with Robin, Walter Skinner, What is she being charged being insubordination of?, what's your problem with buzzards? They're just trying to get by in a tough world, wikifeet.com, William Mulder, X-Files, xfiles, Yo Albert, Your Father should be ashamed you barefooted monster

In this full service episode Mel, joins us to talk about the most awesome mountain grill ever created, the fattening properties of alien desert technology, intricate numerological findings, not-so-exciting cable car action scenes, and the dash-cam video travel-time logic puzzles.

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It’s better than mountain burgers.

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Listen to Episode 2×06 – 1:39:03

Tags: 1123 CE Emperor Sutoku succeeds Emperor Toba on the throne of Japan, 229 is a regular prime a long prime a twin prime (with 227) a cousin prime and a sexy prime. 229 is also a prime triplet, 3-5-1977 Chris Carter is molested by a man named Duane Barry, 311 stands for KKK because K is the 11th letter of the alphabet (Three 11s = Three Ks = KKK), 419 police code code for dead human body, 419 scam = the Nigerian money transfer fraud scam, 803 CE Stiftskeller St. Peter possibly Central Europe's oldest restaurant is founded, 88mph = Tram to the Future, Acting Chops, Alex Krycek, Alien Abductions, Aliens have the best deserts!, Angry Strangulation, Are our tram cables hugely unreliable, Ascension, Brad Cupples, Cable car action set piece of doom, Case Crackers, Chris Carter, Chris Carter was the Damon Lindeloff of the 90's, Cigarette-cek, Claire cannot tell how old Skinner is, Claire Laffar, Coming Through!, Dana Scully, David Duchovny, Deny Everything, Duane Barry, Enhance!, Face Punch via window, Flanel Season, Flipping the script on local law enforcement, Fly-cek, Fox Mulder, Full Service Grill, Gillian Anderson, Gish Gallop, Goodbye-cek, Grabbin' Foxes, Hair-cek, happenstance resistance training team, Harlan Ellison, hasty racoon tightrope team, Hasty Robbery Technician, Hatchie River treading team, hazardous robot terror team, hiccup risk treatment team, hippopotamus relations task team, hobo rights testimony team, How did the FBI get that video, HRT Team, I need your help?, If a Duane Barry drives up a mountain at 65mph and a tram car is going at 88mph..., introtox, Killer on the Catwalk, Leocal v. Ashcroft 543 U.S. 1 (2004) held that aliens may not be deported after being convicted of DUI if the DUI statute that defines the offense does not contain a mens rea element or otherwise allo, Leprechaun in the Hood, Mulder is too busy working on a sad beard to ask Krycek basic questions, Mulders father, Nicholas Lea, number-cek, Out-of-Office Action-Man Skinner, Pennywise the Clown, Pirate Radio Intro to X, Poison-cek, Robin Burdge, Robin explains how commercial breaks work, Robin tries to justify trunk lighting, Sarah Palmer, Scooping Robin and Tammy, Screamer Suit, Scully's Mom has psychic powers, Searching for the evil Mindu, Secret Alien Action Pregnancy, Sigh-cek, Skinner has permanent boner rage, Sly-cek, So none of this dudes coworkers know this guy's name? What happens when you shake his hand and introduce your self? Does he just stare? What a dick, Stephen King's IT, Steve Railsback, Supernatural, Tammy Ginader, The FBI's tastiest dishes, The monster of denial, The X-Files, There can be only one FBI pathologist, Trammy --No relation, Trying to find significance in random numbers is ridiculously insane, Turn over your files to the Hunky Rikshaw Team, Twin Peaks, Ummm hey Skinner when a phone rings you have to say 'hello' or NO ONE WILL KNOW YOU ARE THERE AND LISTENING. THIS IS THE SOCIAL CONTRACT!, Untested tram cables, Why does she call herself a skeptic but still wear silly Jeezo bling, William "The Marshal" Marshal 1st Earl of Pembroke AKA The most badass Knight in history, xfiles, You are 2 close 2 this case

Bob is here to talk Duane Barry. Duane Barry is in a world of trouble and not even Duane Barry, armed with all the Stravel brochures in the world, can get Duane Barry out of this one. Also Muldoor loses at fashion… repeatedly.

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It’s even more fun when you aren’t asleep.

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Listen to Episode 2×05 – 1:39:03

Tags: Acting Chops, Agent Lucy Kazdin, Al Marsh, Alex Krycek, Alien Abductions, Baby Hedgehog Mulder, Blank-cek, Bob DeGrande, CarnyCast, CCH Pounder, Chris Carter, Cop Rock, Dana Scully, David Duchovney's Acting Coach, David Duchovny, Denise Bryson, DexterCast, Disturbing Behavior, Doing tests... ya know testin' 'em, Dr. Del Hakkie, Duane Barry, Duane Gary, Duane Jerry, Fire in the Sky, Fox Mulder, Frank C. Turner, Gillian Anderson, Grey Sex Dungeon, Gross Little with Alien Heads, happenstance resistance training team, Hard hitting questions, hasty racoon tightrope team, Hatchie River treading team, hazardous robot terror team, hazzlenut raisin tasting team, Helter Skelter, hiccup risk treatment team, high roller touring team, hippopotamus realtions task team, hobo rights testimony team, hooker relocation travel team, HRT Team, Impractical Brain Suckage, impractical practical effects, Jelly Bean Tie, Jon's local terror report, Lame-cek, Leo Johnson's house, Leprechaun in the Hood, Michael Ontkean vs David Duchovney in a volume act-off, Muldoor, Nicholas Lea, Pennywise the Clown, Phinease Gage, Poor Alien Dental Care, Red Speedo Situations, Reefer Madness, Robin goes to the Phinease Gage Amusement Park and Corn-Dog-A-Rama for vaycay, Robin has a secret he will take to the grave. It is discovered. The man who podcasts will podcast no jive... when this man podcasts season two episode five. The Cover of Robin's Scrapbook is revealed!, Ronette Pulaski Virginia, Shooting a brain in half, Shot his brain in half by his own weapon in a stakeout... great job Barney Fife, Sitting on the floor is for animals, Small... Tall... or Diminutive, Split brain bifurcation via bullet, Staying awake makes the episodes much more interesting, Stephen E. Miller, Stephen King's IT, Steve Railsback, Stockholm Syndrome, Stravel Time, Super Pregnant Scully, Supernatural, Tactical Commander, Teense Weense barcodes, Teeth Drilling, Third Person Overload, Twin Peaks, Were walls of plastic sheeting acceptable in the early 90s, Why-cek, Worst Hostage Negotiator EVER, Ye Olde Yankee Visiting King Arthur Story

In this super-rad episode Moira visits and we discuss the return of everone’s favorite child predator Doug Hutchinson as Eugene Victor Tooms. We learn the shocking truth about the Frank Briggs and discuss the feasibility of toilet toupees and liver based time travel.
Make sure you check-out the super handy chart illustrating “The Life and Times of Everyone’s Favorite Crazy Old Cop Frank Briggs”

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It’s much more culturally relevant than Hotmail or The Simpsons!

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Listen to Episode 1×21 – 1:46:46

Tags: Alf Scully, Bile Nest, Brad Cupples, Charles Xavier, Check it out, Child Predators, Chris Hansen, Cigarette Smoking Man, Claire Laffar, Cockblock Fox, Conventional investigation does not preclude unconventional investigation, Courtney Stodden, Daredevil, David Duchovny, Differentiate - to become unlike or dissimilar; change in character; to make a distinction, Doug Hutchinson, DVD makers ruin peoples lives, Escalators will murder you, Everyone's favorite centenarian Frank Briggs, Francis Underwood, Frank Briggs is 121yrs old, Frank doesn't know the difference between the words differentiate and guess, Frank thinks Scully is 90 years old, Gillian Anderson, he wont kill the couple that's too obvious.. but his court appointed therapist NOT OBVIOUS AT ALL, Heinrich the Moose Hunting Norwegian Elkhound, Hey Frank... why didn't you mention that liver a year ago, House of Cards, How do you fall asleep watching a serial killing monster from?, If Mulder wasn't a crazy fuck Tooms would have remained locked up, Intro to Corsair The Starjammer Space Pirate, Intro to House of Cards, Intro to X-Men, Jeff Goldblum, Jersey Devil Child, John Boehner, Jose Quesada, Kevin Spacey, Lidlock is Tooms only weakness, Liver based time travel, Liver Lust, Moira's Medical Minute, Pennywise the Clown, Power, Quickly built malls, Ridic 3d teeth modeling program, Robin Burdge, Robin loses the episode, Root Beer Fate and Liverwurst Dreams, Shocker, Silvia Horne, Skinner, SpaceDawg, Stop liking up dead rat juice!, Tammy Ginader, Ted Cruz, Th finest agent in the 60yr history of the FBI except all the others, That guy is clearly three midgets in a blue trenchcoat, The adopt a crazy person program, The Fly, The Hibernating Mutant MouthGuard from ToomsCo, The last time someone used hotmail other than Claire people were still watching 'The Simpsons', The Matlock/Diagnosis Murder style X-Files Spinoff, The new standard of X-Files episodes is if they require me to make an elaborate chart to explain things, The Professor sits down, The X-Files, These pennies are evidence for something we already knew and didn't need further evidence of, Time Traveling, Time Traveling Tooms Kills Himself, Toilet Toupee, Tooms, Tooms is a Goulie, Tooms is a sleepybear, Twin Peaks, ummm dude try to kill you... how about rescheduling your meetings?, UMMMM I thought he ate the livers? So he just takes them, Unnecessarily tormenting Claire, What is with the wacky font on the doors?, why does Tooms climb into the back of the van?, X-Files Babies, xfiles, YOU DO NOT WANT THAT SANDWICH. DESTROY IT!, Your toilet is not a chair

Matt climbs back into the ring to talk about Shapes, AKA Sheriff Hawk vs Werewolf. The writers kind of try to not be racist. Scully tries not be incompetent. Sneaking Fox tries to… hang around until the mystery is solved? Honestly everybody is losing this one except us because we’ve got Hawk being a badass and a caged mountain lion to look at.

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It’s more fun than an evening with a caged animal that makes you think of your mom!

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Listen to Episode 1×19 – 1:40:37

Tags: A cut scene so bad Tammy thought Robin made it up, American Werewolf in London, Baywatch Nights, Blood Lust, Blood Rage, Brad Cupples, Caged Mountain Lion Stock Footage, Claire delivers on her own time, Claire Laffar, David Duchovny, Donnelly Rhodes, Dr. David Hasselfhoff's funeral for the unfrozen Viking Warrior was a billion times cooler than this funeral, Dutch from Soap, FanFic Contest, Future Matt, Gillian Anderson, Goodenplenty, Goodensnake, Gooodenough, Hawk is always a badass, he had more possesions than friends... like everybody? I've got more socks than friends, Hillbilly Murderers, I love to watch caged animals and thinking about my dead mom when I'm drunk and naked... OH THAT'S NOT CRAZY, I must draw you, I'm not disturbing your funeral by riding up on a horse am I?, It never leaves a trail...except this time... when Mulder immediately finds a trail... and skin, J. Edgar Hoover, Japes 'n Shapes, Manitou, Manitou eyes vary HUGELY by description, Marley and Me: The Puppy Years, Matt Humphrey, Mel is proudly obtusely hilariously wrong, Michael Horse, Moira is angling to take out Robin and Matt, Moira's Medical Minute(s), Mulder is shooting his gun like a crazy person, Number of animals is a metric for sound like number of football fields is a metric for length, Oh yeah Scully just left with him... P.S. I forgot to tell her that he ate his father's blood and is in fact a cannibal monster... no big deal., Past Matt, Pennywise the Clown, Phases, Pregnancy Watch, Racism, Robin Burdge, Russian Doll Werewolves, Scully would give up her career to drive an ambulance, Shapes, Skinwalker, Sneaky Mountain Lion Antics, Soap, Steven King, Tammy Ginader, Teeth Calcium deposits?, The Creeps, The Twin Peaks Podcast, The X-Files, The Young Riders, Twilight, Twin Peaks, ummm why is 80% of the rez at the bar midday #Racism, Werewolves, What if you discovered your girlfriend was a native american MantiTe'o... Editors Note: I am shocked Robin didn't make this joke., What would an internal anomaly prove?, Where do the human sized skin and fur suits go when they change?, Windigo, Writing vs Directing in a battle for who is worse

Ina stops by to discuss ‘Beyond the Sea’ or as Netflix might call it ‘Definitely Not Beyond the Sea’ Major Briggs uses his white lodge powers to turn Scully into a whiny child that cannot reason her way out of a paper bag, luckily Gillian Anderson and Brad Douriff can act circles around David Duchovny which kind of salvages things. Kind of.

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Where we will never sacrifice your safety for the fun of killing another person!

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Listen to Episode 1×13 – 1:39:31

Tags: Always announce your location and intention to dangerous killers that are hiding from you and possibly carrying a gun, Bobby Briggs bagged by bogus bobby, Brad Douriff, BSG, Capitol punishment in a supposedly civilized society, Condemned Signs Incorporated, conduit = Chris Carter's favorite word, Dude has lived a rough twenty-eight years, Fuck the death penalty, Gas Chamber, Giant Telephones, Gillian Anderson Wins Scully Loses, Hair in a can, Horrifically awful neckties, Ina Kirsten Sundal Widerøe, inappropriate face touching, Jennifer Love Hewitt, Jimi Hendrix, Major Briggs, Mind Games, Mulder's first gunshot wound, Netflix Dramz, Party like it's 1994, Peas should not be on your last meal menu, Pennywise the Clown, Phoney Baloney Cops, Psychic Channeling is the lamest, Robin tries to take us back to wikifeet, Robin's Topical Jokes are approximately Five Months Old, Rocket Fuel Facts from a Rocket Scientist, Sal Tlay Ka Siti, Scully's Father sees her as a young Quaker seaman she see's him as a crazed revenge obsessed whale hunter... it's a super healthy relationship, Scully's parents are righfully ashamed of her, Silence of the Lambs, Taller Ghost Briggs, tenuous song connections, The American criminal justice system is a repulsively barbarous antiquated system of systematic cruelty disguised as Justice, The music industry encourages piracy yet again, Twin Peaks, Visionary Sightings of the dead, What the fuck is a ghost?, What the fuck is a spirit?, What the fuck is Biro?, When Mulder says someone is a crazy fake maybe consider it, Whiny Scully, WORST ENDING EVER, “Killer Recruiting” Franchise Opportunities Available!

Bam! Steph joins us in this cuckoo-bananas episode as we try to figure out what the hell a “Conduit” is. Mulder needs to be under investigation by Chris Hansen. We learn all about bad tattoos, bad parenting, and bad law enforcement. Is the awesomeness of an episode directly correlated to the size of the plot holes? Rubeeeehhhh!

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Or we’ll cry harder than David Duchovny!

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Listen to Episode 1×04 – 1:35:08

Tags: BAM, Baywatch Nights, Beauty and the Beast, Bikers... Duck! Because Motorcycles can't hit you if you're on the ground?, Conduit, Conduit... You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means, Coolness vs Basic Reasoning, Creepy Kid, Crying on cue, Doctor David Hasselhoff, Douche NSA, Dreamcatcher, Duchovny can't cry, Duchovny Hair-Watch, Everyone's a dick, Formally deonouncing and rejecting Des and Skylar, GET YOUR INDEX FINGER OFF THAT CHILD'S CROTCH!, How does alien small area exhaust burning work?, Insanly over-generalized archetype deconstruction for the sake of filling a useless article, Johnny-Come-Lately Feedback, Lake Okobogee, Lamest Tattoo, Library Mysteries, Lost Boys, Luckily Robin doesn't make pro-Nazi sentiments... for once, Margot Kidder, Mulder acts like a chimo, Mulder vs Wolf, Mulder's Spirit Guide, Neil Young, NSA security codes are only 3 digits, Ogre from Revenge of the Nerds, Pennywise, Poltergeist ripoff, Pro:Hot-Drinks Anti:Decent-Parenting, Questionable Binary, Rainbow coalition of wolves in unity for America, Rubeeehh!, Rubing maggot adjacent evidence on your chin like a pro, Ruby!, Ruuubeeeehhh!, Sadsack Mulder, Say hello to the night, Scrap Book of Shame, Sexism, Shortalls, Slut-Shaming, Small town dick cops, T-Rex is more likely than aliens, Talkative Hobo, Teenwolf, Tessa is the goddamn Batman, That is not how science works, Three Derivitive Little Pigs, Too close to this case to be rationale… really?, Twin Peaks, Unnecssary CPR, Warning: Listener feedback contains discussion of how characters are dressed... ignore if you can't handle it, Werewolf Pals, Who needs evidence when you have third tier tabloid stories?, Worst Mother Ever

Moira joins us in our bile nest of fun as we watch a super creepy episode. The Female Bashing Investigative Agency is in high form in this episode as Scully is torn between douchebags and Old Spooky, who has got some perfectly reasonable ideas about 100 yr old liver eating stretch-armstrong mutants. There’s an insanely weird half formed plot involving a wistful old cop. Warning! At the 17:08 mark Claire breaks all the rules of proper podcasting by making a comment about someones dress, we completely understand if you find yourself unable to listen to this part and need to file a formal list of grievances with the podcast union.

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It’s the coziest bile-nest on the net!

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Listen to Episode 1×03 – 1:16:08

Tags: Baths and Showers, Bile and Newspaper Nest, Blade Hands, Blatant Sexism, Brad Cupples, Child Marriage, Claire Laffar, Comments about dresses, Cranky old man Tooms just wants to go to bed, David Duchovny, Diminishing the holocaust, Doug Hutchison might be creepier than Tooms, Eugene Victor Tooms, Family Call-in Block, Getting Bitch-Slapped by Exposition, Gillian Anderson, Gollum, handsy neckless grabs, I was a Douchebag for the FBI!, Inability to communicate thwarts the FBI, IT, John's Future, Lamest Nickname Ever, Locke and Horace sitting in a tree, Look behind the matress dum dums, look up... look around... look behind you, Moira Browne, Mulder is a weirdo nerdlinger, Mutants need to make better Investments, My precious, Ninja Turtles is not an x-file, Opening Credits Flying Man, Pennywise, Polygraphs are wack, Robin Burdge, Scully bra watch, Secret Stretchy FBI Fingerprint Tech, Sleepsloth, Spooky, Spooky seedpod or Extra-Terestrial Testicle?, Squeeze, Stretch and grow, Stretch Armstrong, Sunflower seeds are gross, Tammy Ginader, THE CONSEQUENCES OF ETHNIC CLEANSING, The monster of Genocide, The oldest cop, The X-Files, There are no arbitrary language restriction on this podcast... as long as I live, Tom is the worst, Twin Peaks, unjustifiable LEAPS in logic, Weird Actor produced fan fiction, Wild controversial dress discussion